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"Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito" (breakfast-burrito) 08/22/2013 at 23:38 • Filed to: None

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Anyone can recognize and lust after a Lamborghini. It takes a true car guy to appreciate the hidden value of the most mundane drivers. True car guys also may be aware of cooler variants that aren't well known. This is technically a Ford Probe. It's basically turquoise.

A black Aventador actually comes regularly to the weekly car shows by me. The ones ogling at it are definitely NOT the car guys. The car guys are the ones swooning over the '96 Roadmaster Wagon next to it because they know it's got the 5.7 liter LT1.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:40

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Hey I am the guy ogling at the V12 Lambos!

Nibby > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:42

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"My dream car is a turquoise Ford Probe with a V12 engine swap."

PowderHound > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:42

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I would like to think that the sentence, "My dream car is a turquoise Ford Probe" Has never actually been said until today.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:43

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That's me too... I say "I'm a car guy" and my friends are all like "so, you like Lambos and ferraris?"

No! I like the strange cars, not the stereotypical cars.

GhostZ > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:43

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It all depends on why they like the mundane car.

I knew a guy who absolutely lusted at Dodge Intrepids. He didn't know anything about cars, couldn't tell a Porsche from a Beetle, but could definitely tell you everything about those cars (outside of mechanical knowledge) to try and make you love them too.

Why did he love them? Because he was fascinated with the styling? Because they drove well? Because they were fast, or stealthy? Because they had an attitude? Because he saw beauty in them no one else did? Because they were unappreciated?

Nope.

He loved them because his mom drove one. No other reason. He figured that since that's the car she drove, it must be the most fucking amazing vehicle in the world and everything else is inferior. It offered the best of all worlds, and while it wasn't the best at any one thing, it was definitely the best car for everyone, and it could do no wrong. It was faster than a Mustang, cheaper than a Geo, and more reliable than a Camry. Because his mom drove it. His mom didn't even like it, but it was the only car he had any experience (if you call living around and being drove around in it every now and then experience) with and something in his brain made him latch onto it like nothing else.

Does he "see something" in that mundane car that no one else does? Yes. Would you have to be clinically insane in order to agree with his fascination? Probably.

Is he a "car guy"? No.

lonestranger > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:47

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Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > GhostZ 08/22/2013 at 23:51

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That's very true. I knew a guy who didn't know anything about cars, but dreamed of Geo Prizms for the same reason. Still, these people are few and far between.

Roadster Man > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:52

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But seriously, moderately modded turbo probes can lay down serious quarter mile times.

m2m, apex detective > lonestranger 08/22/2013 at 23:53

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I saw a BMW 8-series in that. Mad nostalgia.

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > PowderHound 08/22/2013 at 23:54

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These are all turquoise enough.

GhostZ > Roadster Man 08/22/2013 at 23:55

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"But seriously, moderately modded turbo *insert any car here* can lay down serious quarter mile times."

Fixed that for you.

Destructive Tester > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/22/2013 at 23:59

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Love how wrong the comic is! I'm actually the "car guy" who talked his g/f OUT of getting him a Drive Your Dream Car track experience. My logic; I genuinely like driving and didn't want every time I get behind the wheel for the rest of my life to be a horribly hollow experience. My enjoyment has already been tempered having driven an Alfa Romeo 156 all over the back roads of Northern Italy (and it didn't even break, not even once).

Big Bubba Ray > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/22/2013 at 23:59

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Same here. Here's how the typical conversation goes down.

Me: "Ya, I like cars."

Friend: "OOH me too!! My favorite car is the Bugatti Veyron! I bet that's your favorite, too!?"

Me: "No, I like station wagons and miatas."

Friend: "Those are the gayest cars on the planet."

Roadster Man > GhostZ 08/23/2013 at 00:02

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You're totally right. Except for: Miatas, beetles, escorts, ladas, non-turbo diesel VW's, buick regals, and probably a few other cars I'm forgetting. Not every car in the world can bang out a pretty quick quarter mile with only a wastegate and a few hundred bucks of tuning. The probe GT can do that. Think before you type please!

Aloha Milkyway > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:04

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Would it kill me if I said I really wanted one of these? I preferred the pre-facelift MV6 for some reason

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Big Bubba Ray 08/23/2013 at 00:07

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Exactly.. my friend, claiming to be a car, was offered a FREE, 97 Miata convertible with a manual... he turned it down saying it was too girly for him...

When I show my friends the car I want (A Volvo V70R or 850R), they laugh and say "Are you a soccer mom? That thing is super ugly."

SpeedSix > YSI-what can brown do for you 08/23/2013 at 00:08

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I ogle at the 350GT, 400GT, and the Miura ...

YSI-what can brown do for you > SpeedSix 08/23/2013 at 00:11

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Those are all very nice. In fact I love them, but my favorite mid engine Lambo has to be this:

And then just incase that wasn't enough some Lambo F1 fury!

lonestranger > Roadster Man 08/23/2013 at 00:22

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Wait, what? All of those cars, given moderate mods and a turbo, are capable of laying down serious 1/4 mile times. Especially the Buick Regal, that's where you really lost me. And "non-turbo diesel VW? Well, with a turbo, it wouldn't be "non-turbo", then would it?

Seriously, I'm not picking up what you're putting down.

TurboSloth > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:25

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I remember I met a guy who said his dream car was a Nissan Altima. He thought it was one of the greatest looking cars. To be honest, my dream car is a WRC spec Ford Fiesta ST.

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:26

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Truth.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:29

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Why not both?

Jayhawk Jake > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 00:36

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I'm the same, but with planes. My favorite plane is a DC-3, one of the most mundane planes you can find. Beyond that I'm a huge fan of random weird one offs, even those that weren't even all that good at what they were trying to do.

People assume that to be a car guy (or airplane guy) means you like the flashy stuff, but really it means that you have an appreciation for more than the flash.

RMudkips > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:40

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Yup.

This is me: "cars are cool"
My friends: "Man, drooling over that Road Runner/Lotus F1/*expensive marque*
Me: "Hey, this Lancia Delta Integrale, this Toyota Hiace and this Volvo are pretty swag too. Miatas are nice"
Friends: "You have no taste GOOD DAY SIR".

I know a girl who's the His Stigness of muscle cars. I showed her a Ferrari 250 GTO and she goes "ugly duck you're making me barf dude". I know a guy who won't read anything about road cars.

...and then there's the awesome friend who's dad has a Miami Vice Testarossa, and the epic dude who's first car is apparently a V8 swapped Impala or something.

Ah well, sometimes high school isn't perfect.

RMudkips > Big Bubba Ray 08/23/2013 at 00:42

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Almost exactly this. Some of the apparent car people at my school are pretty damn bigoted towards anything that isn't ____, but most of them are fine with the weird dude who likes Volvos with rotaries.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 00:48

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It is a mark of sophistication to move beyond stage 2.

Unified theory of gear head classification.

Stage 0: Antithetical. not knowing about cars at all. Not being able to pick your own or your friends'/relatives' cars out in a parking lot. Barely able to identify a car by something more specific than color.

Stage 1: Novice. Knowing the usual suspects and the easy-choices cars like lamborghinis or ferraris, just because the name is recognized, and maybe you had a poster on your wall when you were a kid. Likely still drives an appliance-like mainstream vehicle, for lack of hassle and a perceived 'reliability' aspect, though.

Stage 2: Fan-boy. Knowing enough about cars to not get lost when asked where the engine of a mid-engined car is, but likely to blindly follow a favored brand, and vilify other brands for not being their brand. Even with traits of higher stages, if the person blindly lauds one vehicle or brand as completely faultless, and as a direct correlation tacitly discounts any and all competitors, it tends to keep them anchored at stage 2.

Stage 3: Advanced. The beginning of not giving a damn what other people think. Starting to like cars like Miata, or RWD Volvos, or other interesting pieces for their merits, and not just the usual suspects. This rises above stage 2, even if the person loves a favored car or brand, it doesn't diminish acceptance and objectivity about other brands.

Stage 4: Expert. Sociological impact stage. Tendency to repeatedly piss off other people off by talking about cars TOO much, and drowning anyone below stage 3 out completely. Pissing off other stage 3 and 4 people due to competitive nature, or just difference of opinion based on minutiae that Stage 1 or 2 probably don't even know about. Also marked by being pissed off due to a heightened awareness enough to realize most new cars suck under increasing regulatory pressures, and most good classics are too needy and expensive, and in some cases too expensive and hard to replace, to be viable as daily transportation instead of a more boring newer vehicle. A high level of generally jaded cynicism.

Stage 5: Special class. Jay Leno. Jerry Seinfeld. James Glickenhaus, Ralph Loren, Gordon Murray, Rowan Atkinson, Jeremy Clarkson, etc. The list is long, but distinguished, but in the grand scheme of the population, a very rarified club. People who have the money to buy any car, or people who have the skill and position to design any car, or people who are car-oriented celebrities, and thus have the money to buy any car or have one designed for them... People in a uniquely rare position to move beyond most means-limited Stage 4 gear heads. Also, the people that Stages 1-4 generally are envious of.

Finding one's self in Oppositelock here, is a Stage 3 ticket, as there aren't many blinded fan-boys here, thankfully. Front pagers sometimes include stage 1 or 2, though.

Soloburrito > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 00:53

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No, liking weird cars just means you're weird...

...and that's ok. :)

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 01:01

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I would have to fall somewhere between stages 3 and 4...

It's all true..

and the front page is the worst... I have had two or three articles shared on it, and the comments are brutal... these people are clueless, rude, angry, lonely, and biased. Oppo is full of more level headed, understanding car guys... these are the ones you want to go have a beer with and joke around with... the ones you meet at Cars and Coffee hangouts... the good ol' guys with strange passions...

Speaking of passions, I have horrible obsessions with two cars:

98 Volvo V70R

and

Subaru Baja..

don't know why but I always have and always will love the Subaru Baja.

Joe_Limon > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 01:05

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*hands car guy card in*

Sorry, I find vipers and lambos way more exciting then mint big block wagoneers. Or eagle talons or, or, or.... Typical super cars are what I still oggle/aspire to.

If we were a bunch of porn connoseurs, Nibby would be the hentai guy, and I would be the guy who buys his magazine stand issues and goes home sad and alone.

Burrito de EJ25 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 01:06

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One of my dream cars is basically a mini-van coupe.

CB > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 01:13

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Does mechanical knowledge play in to this scale at all? Because mine is basically non-existent.

promoted by the color red > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 01:14

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Oh great, automotive hipsters. To be fair, I don't begrudge others for liking car X over car Y. As long as you "like" cars as a whole or even your own particular car to the point that you keep the maintenance up to date and understand its little faults you are a car guy/girl to me.

My dream car is a 1992 Subaru Legacy RS-Type-RA with a Heywood and Scott exhaust. Built for WRC homologation and has bits the WRX only dreams of, it's pretty much very awesome. Doesn't hurt that it sounds like a beast. Most of my other dream cars are all from the '80s-'90s with a healthy smattering of those of the current decade.

My current car is a 1995 Integra GS-R. It's not the greatest car. It's banged up, has had a pretty bad smack in its past, is missing a bunch of trim pieces, but it hauls ass and it's mine. My parents gave it to me so I'm definitely going to treasure it forever (I'll pay them back at some point). My friends can call it a piece of shit all they want and the Integra fanbois can sniff their noses at it being a "common" white sedan with blades, but it sounds really fucking awesome when you rev that little motor and it handles really really well. Isn't that what really matters?

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > CB 08/23/2013 at 01:18

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Nah, that would be a separate theory about mechanical ability.

They are similar, related, and tend to coincide, but this list is more about attitude toward, and knowledge of cars, and the automotive industry.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Burrito de EJ25 08/23/2013 at 01:20

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Nobody below a Stage 3 outside of Europe even KNOWS what a Renault Avantime is.

promoted by the color red > Destructive Tester 08/23/2013 at 01:23

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I talked my friend into something "safe and boring". As much as I'd like to see him drive about town in a M3-swapped E30 or Miata, he's going to another state far far away. Unless I can personally inspect the car or have somebody I trust do it I don't think I can live with myself if something bad were to happen.

SPNKiX > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 01:23

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i ogle all the cars. it's not like car guys don't like Aventadors. I LOVE them. I really don't like Probes, due to some uncomfortable memories involving extra terrestrials, but most other cars, I dig. The older you get, the more cars you like, mostly because of the fact that there are just more cars to choose from... mewstly.

Agrajag > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 01:24

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How stage 5 includes the rich gearheads capable of buying any car, stage 1 should include the rich assholes who buy amazing cars and don't care past the badge.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Agrajag 08/23/2013 at 01:33

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Agreed, and that fits with Stage 1, or maybe Stage 2 description.

Money doesn't buy a higher classification, and it isn't truly the key to Stage 5. Affluent people can fit in any of the stages,

Non-wealthy people can possibly get into Stage 5 without money, as well. Being an auto journalist who gets paid to go drive nice cars for their job, could qualify as Stage 5, even without being rich. Almost anyone who has their life and their car hobby/enthusiasm unified for happiness that most other folks don't tend to find can qualify as a special classification.

But let's face it... cars are not exactly the cheapest of hobbies to be enthused about... money has it's effects, and it sure does help. Money may not be able to buy you love, but it can buy you a fast inanimate machine that looks fantastic.

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > SPNKiX 08/23/2013 at 01:37

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Oh definitely. I usually try and avoid the Lambo because the owner is an attention hungry jerk, but sometimes stop by and check out the Lambo with a few other gearhead friends. Usually the conversation goes like this.

"Oh cool, an Aventador. That's probably going to be the last factory V12 ever. Hmm... you can't see much of the engine under the glass. Oh well. Moving on."

I suspect most car guys would at least make a quick pass at it, but there's very few visible intricacies to necessitate a lot of time to look at it. The non-gearheads are the ones who spend 20 minutes circling the thing and ignoring EVERYTHING else at the show.

"Oh cool! That's like a Ferrari, or Lamborghini, or Bugatti, or something. Look at the doors! They open up. Like a bird! That's cool. I wish my Corolla had those. This thing must be like, a billion dollars. Hey mister, is that the engine under this glass? Why is it in the back? Etc...."

PlayerWAN > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 01:58

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Well, in all fairness, this is my dream car:

Exactly the way it looks, but with an EJ22T underhood and STi suspension and driveline.

PlayerWAN > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 02:00

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Hah, sounds like the exact same conversation I had when I mentioned I wanted a Legacy Turbo wagon.

feather-throttle-not-hair > Roadster Man 08/23/2013 at 03:16

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I was with you until Buick regal.

feather-throttle-not-hair > promoted by the color red 08/23/2013 at 03:27

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"Oh great automotive hipsters"

Uhm. That's EXACTLY what jalopnik is in case you hadn't noticed. The only reason the whole website isn't called "Jalopnik: automotive hipsterdom" is because rule number one of being a hipster is to steadfastly deny your own hipsterdom while simultaneously accusing everyone and everything else of being "too hipster for your tastes"

"The answer is always miata" should've tipped you off to this.

promoted by the color red > feather-throttle-not-hair 08/23/2013 at 03:46

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It was very tongue-in-cheek, as you might have guessed by my ridiculously specific dream car. Besides, the Miata is much too mainstream. It's all about a rusty Lotus Elan.

xen0blade > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 04:09

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Dream car: BMW M8. The original. That they should've built. But didn't. I'm going to go have a little cry now. *Sniff* I also wouldn't mind that particular Ford Probe. A regular Probe? Kill it with fire.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 04:50

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So you're saying you don't like supercars?

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 04:52

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Unless they've played GT4.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > promoted by the color red 08/23/2013 at 04:58

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Considering how the Elan is made out of GRP, finding a rusty one must be impossible.

Just wear your damn mask... > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 06:53

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Probe? Yes.

Turquoise? No, not even basically.

GhostZ > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 07:21

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I can confidently say that I've been at Stage 4 since I was about 17. That actually describes my enthusiast for cars almost exactly, except I even spend hours doing research on all sorts of mechanical things, even downloading tuning shop engine simulators and toying around with them. It's getting to the point where the amount of time I spend thinking, researching, and dreaming about cars is probably dangerous to my success in life.

GhostZ > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 07:26

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People like Jay Leno don't buy cars because of the badge, they are enthusiasts in the sense that they are so rich that they can cram multiple-lifetimes of auto enthusiast into a single garage. Consider the wide variety of the cars the people he own listed. It's to the point where these guys would easily be Stage 4, except they lack the time and are often too busy making money to really appreciate it, so they make up for it by creating their own automotive shangri-la.

liquid_popcorn > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 07:34

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What the fuck.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 07:36

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If I say I'm a stage 4, does this make me a douche?

My name is Maxyenko and I'm a Stage 4 Gear Head.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 07:38

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I got stuck behind a rusty probe this morning. The only thought that entered my mind was, "Rusty Probe would be perfect for LeMons."

RS Hole, I forgot my password for 8 months > PlayerWAN 08/23/2013 at 08:02

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I'm curious. Why an EJ22T? 163 bhp and stopped use in 1994. I'd much rather have one of those with an EJ257 used in the USDM STi Imprezas. And if we are talking dream cars, an FA20 motor and turbo the crap out of it, still in the same GC8 (GM6) car

RS Hole, I forgot my password for 8 months > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:05

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My first car was a Boisenberry Blue Metallic (read: purple) 1996 Ford Probe GT. I absolutely loved that car. The KLDE V6 was amazing. It was just a waaaay better looking Mazda MX-6 with a terrible name. Too bad I crashed it being a moron, otherwise I'd still have it today.

Sparf > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:10

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I'm absolutely fucking addicted to strange and obscure sports cars, especially if they're from Japan. Good ol' muscle cars are also awesome, but they lack that same aura of mystery and unicorn-ness.

ncasolowork2 > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 08:10

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In fairness to your friends the 850R is ugly. Very functional and all that good stuff. Plenty of reasons to be a desirable car. Looks isn't one of them.

ncasolowork2 > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:12

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I would argue the sign of a true car guy is someone who has an affordable car on his dream car list. Not because he can afford it, but because there are some awesome affordable cars like the Miata.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:18

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Having any dream car at all makes you a car guy.

William Byrd > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:33

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Very interesting thread. If we had a best of this week, it should be in it.

I'm a car guy and, at age 8 I lusted over a Countach, and now at age 36, I lust over the Aventador. When I was 16 I really wanted a Ford Probe. I think the issue here partially comes down to accessibility. If you were a multi-millionaire, you would have the opportunity to buy any car(s) in the world. I'm sure there are quite a few people here would say they would spend a million dollars on old Volvo wagons. Whether or not they really would, is a matter of conjecture. Until they reach that financial peak, we won't know. Until then, they can actually go buy a Volvo wagon and do strange and wonderful mods to it. It's accessible and therefore preferable to the $300K exotic that is out of reach for now.

And of course there is an aspect of automotive hipsterdom to Jalopnik, part of what makes if fun. But you need to recognize that being a "car guy" doesn't mean that you ONLY lust over weird cars (a concept some on here will disagree with). The more mainstream cars have become over time, combined with the car show principal that the exotics will get the most attention, means that it's natural for car guys and girls to move to *looking out over neon colored sunglasses* "well I'm glad you think that's cool, but this turbodiesel engined Miata is the coolest car you will ever see. You've probably never heard of it". It's like music, TV, movies, whatever you want to liken it to. For decades people have wanted to like things first, or like things that were different than the mainstream.

So in the end, both answers in the cartoon could be correct. A "car guy/girl" is someone who doesn't just appreciate how cool a car looks, but knows something about how it works, how to control it, etc. That can be a V12 Lambo or a 4 cylinder Ford coupe in an off-the-wall color.

Bullitt417 > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:36

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The question of what makes someone a car guy/girl is always an interesting discussion. I think however, that the answer often gets overlooked. In a nutshell, I believe a car guy is anyone who shows an interest in learning something they don't know.

I don't care what they like, be it a Probe or Adventador, the true measure of a car guy is his ability to learn from those around them. We all have different tastes and abilities. I'm relatively mechanically inclined and have a love for Mustangs. It doesn't necessarily make more more of a car guy than Mr. Probe used in example. I'll bet he could tell me more about that Probe than I ever needed to know. And just like he will listen to me discuss how installing the Boss 302 brake ducts were a bigger pain in the ass than they should have been, I will listen to him discuss how the design of his car was ahead of its time (and part of an earlier concept for the SN95 Mustang).

Those are car guys— Guys/girls that can talk about anything and everything and just appreciate the enthusiasm of the person doing the talking.

William Byrd > PlayerWAN 08/23/2013 at 08:37

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I'm envious that your dream car is so cheap. What would that cost to buy/build?

William Byrd > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:38

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And this is my dream car.

I feel like it tows the line between the two. Exotic, yes. As "mainstream" as an Aventador, probably not. Unfortunately it's very expensive so I'm going to need a few years.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 08:38

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I wonder the response to wanting a Pinto?

v8corvairpickup > ncasolowork2 08/23/2013 at 08:39

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I agree. My "list" is pretty boring but the cars on it interest me because they're different. I've always like Corvairs and they're not the cars that appear in the mainstream. I'd love a MGB GT. Different. Volvo P1800ES. Different. Roadmaster Wagon. Even with it's faux woodgrain. I bought one! Wish it had the LT1.

William Byrd > promoted by the color red 08/23/2013 at 08:40

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If anyone can do it, it's the Brits!

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > v8corvairpickup 08/23/2013 at 09:16

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I'd love a heavily modified LSx F-body and that's not exactly different.

killerkoolaid37 > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 09:18

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Actually I have a soft spot for the original ford probes... my dad had one and it was quite fun to ride around in as a 10-year old.

Jagvar > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 09:21

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"My dream car is a diesel, manual wagon, that is also somehow a Miata." = car guy

CobraJoe > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 09:30

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I'd argue that both of those guys are car guys. Or at least possibly car guys. Anyone who knows enough to pick a specific model they really want is a car guy. (As long as they're both picking the car because they want to drive it, not just to look flashy or whatever).

MonkeePuzzle > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 09:52

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I refer you to my comment of yesterday

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/dd-track-burn-…

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a164353 > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 10:14

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Holy arrogance.

HammerheadFistpunch > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 11:28

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Tis easy to lust for Lambos and Ferrari's

Tis noble to lust for what will truly make you happy.

SpeedSix > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 11:37

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I have an obsession with the little-known cousin of the 300SL:

Mercedes-Benz 190SL

SpeedSix > SPNKiX 08/23/2013 at 11:38

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I ogle at the 350GTs, 400GTs, and the Miuras ...

feather-throttle-not-hair > promoted by the color red 08/23/2013 at 12:31

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Oh. Damnit. Well fine. You win this round, but dont expect to out hipster me for long....

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 08/23/2013 at 12:39

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Speaking of which I've been stalking several LT1 Roadmasters on the Craiggers. Thoughts? Live in an urban area, would use it occasionally for long distance driving.

There is no sleeper like this sleeper, your grandmother taking a nap looks more threatening.

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > m2m, apex detective 08/23/2013 at 12:41

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E31!!!! My only true love! Always do a double take at the front of Probes.

PlayerWAN > RS Hole, I forgot my password for 8 months 08/23/2013 at 13:19

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The EJ22T is known as the ''bulletproof subaru engine''. The T designation standing for turbo, said configuration was only used on the USDM 91-94 Legacy. Fully closed deck block, sohc heads, no interference. How much simpler could it get to work on it? This, compared to the EJ257 (and 205, 255, 207) with their good reliability but hardly accessible spark plugs and hard to replace timing belt (not to mention interference if you neglect the punctual replacement), and the EJ25D (and 251) with their head gasket problems. So while being on the low side of power, the 22T is on the extreme side of reliability, and 163hp can still be a hoot to drive in the 2500lbs GC. Couple that with STi suspension and we can go on some serious back road hunting while keeping DD-ability even during the snow months.

There's definitely thought put into my dream car. My dream car would be driven. Hard. It would not sit in my garage for me to just look at it. That sir, would be no fun.

PlayerWAN > William Byrd 08/23/2013 at 13:22

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A good GC chassis donor can be had for $1-2k, and the STi suspension and driveline for another $2k or so. The problem would be sourcing the engine, as the 22T is highly sought after. Best bet would be finding a wrecked legacy but since those engines were only 91-94, it would be hard to find one still at the junkyard. Steelies can be had for $30 a piece and dirt/gravel tires for about $120 give or take.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 08/23/2013 at 14:17

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I wrote stage 4 from my own experience, so if you are a 'douche', we both are.

I prefer to think of it as the gear head equivalent of "get off my lawn".

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 08/23/2013 at 14:20

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I agree, I just didn't want to come off as a douche for saying that I'm a Stage 4.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > GhostZ 08/23/2013 at 14:22

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That is what separates Stage 5 from Stage 4.

Stage 4 people are expert gear heads, but are often frustrated by limited means to buy what they really want, or inability to create what they can imagine.

Stage 5 people are expert gear heads that have special circumstances that allow their life to align with their expert gear head mentality, and bypass the frustration, pass go, and have an automotively-charmed life. Whether that be money to allow for indulgence, or skill at creating, or opportunity for un-common auto-industry access, or a combination of all three.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 08/23/2013 at 15:15

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Hi Maxyenko.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Goshen, formerly Darkcode 08/23/2013 at 15:17

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I still love supercars.. the noise of the V-12 in an Aventador or the technology crammed into a 458 is incredible.. unfortunately rich d-bags ruin them....

If I had $350,000 and was told to buy any car... a Lambo or Ferrari wouldn't be on my list....

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 08/23/2013 at 15:21

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How about a 308 GTB (f.e.)? Rich douchebags don't ruin those (anymore).

promoted by the color red > Goshen, formerly Darkcode 08/23/2013 at 15:21

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The British, in their infinite wisdom, gave the car the spirit of Churchill and the spine of Chamberlain. The subframe was very easily rusted to pieces and Peter Egan mentions replacing his a few years back in his Side Glances column. Don't remember the issue but I'd say 2006-7-ish.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > promoted by the color red 08/23/2013 at 15:22

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What magazine/newspaper does Egan write for?

promoted by the color red > Goshen, formerly Darkcode 08/23/2013 at 16:03

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Road & Track.